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These are Daily Updates for May 11 through 20, 2004, in reverse chronological order:
May 20, 2004: No update for Thursday, May 20, 2004 (Editor off-- family/medical responsibilities)
May 19, 2004: No update for Wednesday, May 19, 2004 (Editor off-- family/medical responsibilities)
May 18,
2004 #01: Political Satire/Commentary where satire
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Prisoners: Humiliation, Mistreatment, Abuse, Torture; Geneva Conventions; Morality, Iraqi Prisoners, American prisoners, Hostages, Arabs, Muslims, Terrorism, Interrogation, Beheading, Nick Berg, Daniel Pearle, Abu-Ghraib; Lebanon, Somalia, Iran, PLO, Hammas, Islamic Jihad, al Qaeda, Ansar al Islam, Baathists, Ends Justifying Means; Means Justifying Ends.·
Is humane treatment of prisoners always a moral imperative? Can there exist morally compelling justification for inhumane treatment? Does not a moral society have an obligation to draw and enforce such moral distinctions? Alan M. Dershowitz, a self-described liberal, an ACLU member and Harvard Law Professor, presents analyses of such issues in his book, Why Terrorism Works: Understanding the Threat, Responding to the Challenge.
If one having custody of a prisoner were to have reasonable grounds to believe: (a) the prisoner possesses information which, if revealed, could enable authorities to prevent detonation of a nuclear bomb in a city and (b) such prisoner is such a fanatical supporter of, and/or participant in, plans to detonate such bomb that one could not reasonably expect to elicit such information without inhumane interrogation, could such custodian/interrogator morally refrain from such inhumane interrogation? Would not such compelling moral end justify what would otherwise be immoral means?
One's willingness to find moral justification for inhumane treatment of a prisoner varies inversely in proportion to the extent to which one perceives one's self, one's family, one's comrades or one's country to be at risk of mortal danger preventable by information possessed by a prisoner one perceives to be a fanatical supporter of those posing such dangers. Knowledge that the natural human tendency of a custodian/interrogator suspecting the possibility of such information being possessed by a prisoner obliges moral societies to impose restraints to minimize the risks of facile rationalizations for inhumane treatment absent moral justification.
For example, if interrogators of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed were to have acquired information to foil a plot for detonation of a "dirty" bomb (to spread radioactive material in one of our cities) by repeatedly holding his head under water until fear of drowning persuaded him to divulge such information, the compellingly moral goal of such interrogation ought to be deemed morally sufficient to justify what otherwise would be deemed immorally inhumane treatment. In contrast, if such treatment were to be routinely applied to prisoners in the absence of reasonable grounds for believing it to be morally justified to do so, then the same means would be immorally inhumane.
What about treatment that is humiliating but not inhumane? The Geneva Convention proscribes public humiliation of prisoners but certainly does not proscribe hurting their feelings and does not per se proscribe private humiliation. If privately forcing a male prisoner to wear women's apparel were to "humiliate" him into divulging information that could save innocent lives, how could that be deemed "immoral"? What about sleep deprivation? If one were to reasonably believe a prisoner possessed information such that its divulgence could save innocent lives, should not such prisoner's unwillingness to volunteer such information be deemed morally sufficient to deprive him of a good night's sleep if fatigue could be deemed reasonably likely to induce him to reveal such information?
What about the argument that any deviation by the United States from the most restrictive interpretation of limitations under the Geneva Convention would increase the risks that our adversaries would abuse and/or torture American military personnel or citizens captured by them? Islamic and/or Arab fanatics' torture of American prisoners in Lebanon in the 1970's and 1980's, in the Persian Gulf War, in Somalia, and at the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, and the savagely barbaric beheading of Daniel Pearle destroy such argument.
This brings one to an issue at hand. Relatives of prisoners mistreated at Abu-Ghraib, Arab/Islamic "leaders," and Western opponents of Operation Iraqi Freedom have speciously and morally irresponsibly attempted to portray the barbarically savage sawing-off of Nick Berg's head as being a "cycle of violence response" to inhumane treatment of some of the prisoners at Abu-Ghraib. Such argument could be deemed logical (yet morally reprehensible) only if one were to view Arabs and Muslims as being too intellectually immature to draw moral distinctions readily discernible to young children. Yet, the fact that some relatives of some of those prisoners are demanding the "death penalty" for American military personnel who subjected them to non-lethal "humiliation" provides startling evidence of why so few in the Arab/Muslim communities have seen fit to unequivocally and forcefully condemn the savage murder of Nick Berg: Too many Islamic and Arab cultures consider beheading a suitable penalty for a variety of non-violent offenses such as adultery, "blasphemy," "teaching" Christianity, etc.
Does this mean war against such barbaric fanaticism is hopeless? The post-World-War-II evolution of modern, democratic, human-rights-respecting Japan provides an unequivocal "no" as the answer to this question. The degree of violence we had to inflict on Japan to enable this evolution to occur demonstrates why critics of Operation Iraqi Freedom ought to be praising our restraint while condemning our excesses as exceptions to the rule rather than propagandistically characterizing such excesses as though they were the rule rather than exceptions.
--Jim Wrenn, Editor@PoliSat.Com.
May 17, 2004: No Update -- Editor off due to family/medical responsibilities.
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It's time to admit that President Bush should have delayed war against Saddam Hussein until after obtaining approval by, and participation of, the United Nations, NATO, France, Canada, and "moderate" Arab countries in addition to Britain and Australia.·
It's time for those of us who supported President Bush's war against Saddam Hussein to admit that Bush should have delayed war against Saddam Hussein until after obtaining approval by, and participation of, the United Nations, NATO, France, Canada and "moderate" Arab countries in addition to Britain and Australia. It's time that we also admit that before commencement of such warfare, there was every reason to believe that assembling such "international" coalition of moral and legal authority would have been prevented such war from serving as an incentive for terrorist organizations covertly aided by lawless and/or outlaw states to recruit fanatics to attack the United States and its allies.
It's time that we also admit that assembling such broad, international coalition would discourage lawless and outlaw states from continuing to covertly facilitate terrorism against the United States and its allies. It's time to admit that commencing warfare only after assembling such coalition would have maximized our ability to minimize casualties among United States military personnel.
It's time to admit that commencing warfare only after assembling such broad, international coalition would have minimized the ability of terrorists to characterize such action as a war by the United States against an Arab country and/or a Muslim country. It's time to admit that commencing such warfare only after procuring such broad, international support constituted the best way to minimize the risks of the conflict worsening the prospects for the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.
It's time to admit that President Bush ought to have expected that to commence such warfare without such broad international support would increase incentives for terrorists to attack the United States. Indeed, it's time to admit that everyone expected that procurement of support for such war from the U.N., NATO, France, et al, would reduce, not increase, the abilities of our adversaries to recruit fanatics to attack us.
Likewise, it's time for those who most vociferously opposed commencement of President Bush's war against Saddam Hussein to admit that before President Bush ordered commencement of war, he did obtain United Nations approval, he did procure NATO participation, and he did procure support of, and participation by, Arab countries, When such critics dispute these assertions, it's time to remind them that the President was George Herbert Walker Bush and the war was the Persian Gulf War to evict Saddam Hussein's forces from Kuwait. When such critics fail to grasp the relevance of these facts, it time to remind them that the major reason described by Usama bin Laden and his al Qaeda fanatics as their "justification" for the 9-11 attack was that the United States had "desecrated" Arab/Muslim land by deploying military forces into Saudi Arabia in the Persian Gulf War and by thereafter maintaining a smaller deployment in Saudi Arabia to "contain" Saddam Hussein.
Likewise, with respect to those who contend the United States' failure (thus far) to find evidence of the presence of massive stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons and/or re-constituted nuclear weapons programs in Iraq during the time period preceding commencement of Operation Iraqi Freedom invalidates Bush's assertions of moral justification for the war, it's time for them to admit that for Bush to have abstained from war in favor of complying with demands of the United Nationistas (i.e., the French, the Russians, the Germans, and the Chinese) to merely "continue inspections" and "contain" Saddam Hussein would have required the United States to indefinitely continue maintaining a military force in the Persian Gulf and Saudi Arabia many times larger than the small, pre-positioned force in Saudi Arabia before 9-11, the presence of which bin Laden cited as his chief justification for the 9-11 attack. The refusal of Bush's critics to acknowledge the validity of such common-sense conclusions proves not that they lack common sense but rather than they lack the political will to forego the partisan advantage of pretending they're inapplicable.
George W. Bush and those of us who support Operation Iraqi Freedom should demand that critics of the war explain to the American voters how refraining from toppling Saddam Hussein unless and until the United Nationistas' were to have approved, and participated in, such action could have made us "safer" or somehow reduced terrorists' motivations to strike us again for maintaining a larger force in the Persian Gulf post-9-11 (to enforce "sanctions" and "inspections") than the token-size of the pre-9-11 force, the existence of which motivated their 9-11 attack. Making such demands would remind voters currently distracted by unexpected difficulties in completing the tasks at hand that there is no common-sense basis for critics to make such claim. Rather than falling prey to such baseless claims by critics, voters would be more likely to remember the Prime Directive of International Law: "Fool us once, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us."
Conceding Mistakes about War.
Say
critics of Bush, "Waging war
has made us less safe than before.
To merely contain
Saddam," they proclaim,
"is all that was needed, not more."
They
claim that we shouldn't commence
a war without U.N. consent
because such support
they'd hope would help thwart
revenge for the warfare commenced.
For
we who approved war by Bush,
it's time for conceding that Bush
should first have procured
the U.N.'s de jure
support for the warfare by Bush.
It's
time to concede that before
the pushing of buttons for war,
such U.N. support
we'd hope would help thwart
revenge against us for the war.
But
likewise, it's time Bush's critics
admit facts they'd not like admitted:
That Bush did procure
the U.N.'s de jure
support to start war when he did it.
They'll
claim this by Bush wasn't done,
forgetting 'twas Bush 41,
whose U.N. support
for war didn't thwart
revenge in September, '01.
They'll
try to pretend they've forgotten
the motive explained by bin Laden
was basing our force
with U.N. support
in Mid-Eastern lands against Saddam.
So
therefore, it's time Dubya's critics
against their own theories be pitted
to quash their retort
that U.N. support
would help thwart revenge on our cities.
It's
time they be forced to concede
if Bush had said, "War we don't need,"
a much larger force
than forces deployed
before 9-11 we'd need.
It's
time that they further concede
maintaining the forces we'd need
in Mid-Eastern lands
to tie Saddam's hands
would make our risks grow, not recede.
It's
time for such critics to end
their naive desire to pretend
such much-larger force
would not have perforce
increased Qaeda's lust for revenge.
--Jim Wrenn, Editor@PoliSat.Com.
May 13, 2004: No Update for Thursday, May 13, 2004 (Editor off-- family/medical responsibilities)
May 12, 2004: No update for Wednesday, May 12, 2004 (Editor off-- family/medical responsibilities)
May 11, 2004: No update for Tuesday, May 11, 2004 (Editor off-- family/medical responsibilities)
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