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Chris Matthews and Brian Williams Slander Dick Cheney after Cheney-Edwards Debate on Oct. 5, 2004.
Having serous doubts about whether MSNBC and/or NBC will preserve the record of the slander of Dick Cheney by Chris Matthews and Brian Williams by using a selectively edited version of previous statements by Dick Cheney on Meet the Press to falsely allege that such statements by Cheney contradicted, rather than supported, his statement in the debate that he had never claimed Saddam Hussein or Iraq was "responsible" for the 9-11 plot, PoliSat.Com is hereby preserving the relevant data from the internet along with the links at which the data are still available as of October 9, 2004:
Hardball with Chris Matthews for Oct. 6
Read the transcipt to the 7 p.m. ET Show
Updated: 10:56 a.m. ET Oct. 7, 2004
Guest: John Fund, Mark Leibovich, Ed Rogers, Steve McMahon
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(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Tuesday night in the swing state of Ohio, the running mate‘s debate.
DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The world is far safer today, because Saddam Hussein is in jail, his government is no longer in power, and we did exactly the right thing.
SEN. JOHN EDWARDS, (D-NC) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is no connection between the attacks of September 11 and Saddam Hussein, the 9/11 commission has said it, your own secretary of state has said it. And you‘ve government gone around the country suggesting that there is some connection. There‘s not.
MATTHEWS: The lines are drawn and the stage is set for the Friday match-up between President Bush and Senator Kerry. Let‘s play HARDBALL.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
MATTHEWS: Good evening. I‘m Chris Matthews. And welcome to HARDBALL. Last night, Vice President Dick Cheney and Senator John Edwards in an intense and informative debate that ran overtime, sparred over major issue facing Americans from Iraq to the economy. Cheney‘s mission, to reverse the damage from the president‘s performance at the first debate with John Kerry and to strengthen the president‘s position going into the second debate this Friday in St. Louis. Senator Edwards‘ mission, to keep Kerry‘s momentum going into the second face-off with the president.
Was the mission accomplished for either candidate?
Also last night after the vice-presidential debate, we aired a report by NBC‘s Brian Williams pointing to cases where the candidates said things that were contradicted by previous statements.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BRIAN WILLIAMS, NBC NEWS: So much was said tonight, how do you separate facts from assertions, gray areas, thing like did the two men meet? We have narrowed down some of these subject matters and you‘re right.
We watched tonight with our own experts by our side, checking these facts as they came out. And the first exchange we‘re going to show you came during the second round of questions. What you‘re about to see is Vice President Dick Cheney who Senator Edwards charged tonight, has repeatedly linked Iraq to the 9/11 attacks. This was the vice president tonight in his own defense.
CHENEY: The senator has his facts wrong. I have not suggested there‘s a connection between Iraq and the 9/11.
WILLIAMS: But here is the vice president on “Meet the Press” one year ago. September 14, 2003. He was asked to define success in Iraq.
CHENEY: We will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most specially on 9/11.
WILLIAMS: So Vice president Cheney from tonight‘s debate and from “Meet the Press,” just over a year ago.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
MATTHEWS: The Republican National Committee today criticized me for saying on “The Today Show” this morning that the taped remarks we showed last night and the vice president‘s statement on “Meet The Press” established the fact that no uncertain terms that the vice president has asserted that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. The RNC said we were being selective and cited this clip from the same “Meet the Press.”
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TIM RUSSERT, MEET THE PRESS: Can we keep 150,000 troops beyond next spring without, in effect, breaking the army?
CHENEY: Tim, we can do what we have to do to prevail in this conflict. Failure is not an option. And we go back again and think about what is involved here. This is not just about Iraq, or just about the difficulties that we might encounter in any one part of the country in term of restoring security and stability. This is about a continuing operation in the war on terror. It is very, very important we get it right.
If we‘re successful in Iraq. If we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States. So it is not pursuing weapons of mass destruction. So that it is an safe haven for terrorists. We will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years but most especially on 9/11.
They understand what is at stake here. That‘s one of the reason they‘re putting up as much of a struggle as they have is because they know if we succeed here, that that will strike a major blow at their capability.
RUSSERT: So the resistance in Iraq is coming from those who were responsible for 9/11?
CHENEY: I was careful not to say that. With respect to 9/11, 9/11 as I said at the beginning of the show, changed everything. One of the things it changed was that we recognized that time was not on our side. That in this part of the world in particular, given the problems that we‘ve encountered in Afghanistan, which forced us to go in and take action there, as well as in Iraq, that we, in fact, had to move on it.
The relevance for 9/11 is that what 9/11 marked was the beginning of a struggle in which the terrorists come at us and strike us here on our home territory. And it‘s a global operation.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
MATTHEWS: So when they say the vice president said “we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists, who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11.” He wasn‘t saying Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
When I first heard the vice president say that on “Meet the Press” in September of last year, I was struck by the assertion that the tragedy of 9/11 was based in Iraq. That the vice president was pointing a finger at Saddam Hussein‘s role in 9/11. The RNC says that‘s not true. I‘ll leave it to you the viewer to decide on that one.
[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6198150/]
Now let‘s go to NBC‘s Brian Williams, who watched the debate closely tonight. And he‘s going to determine whether Senator—the Senator and the vice president were completely on the up and up.
Let‘s take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
BRIAN WILLIAMS, NBC NEWS ANCHOR: So much was said tonight, how do you separate facts from assertions, gray areas, things like did the two men meet?
We have narrowed down some of the these subject matters, and you‘re right. We watched tonight with our own experts by our side, checking these facts as they came out.
And the first exchange we‘re going to show you came during the second round of questions. What you‘re about to see is Vice President Dick Cheney, who Senator Edwards charged tonight, has repeatedly linked Iraq to the 9/11 attacks.
This was the vice president tonight in his own defense.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DICK CHENEY ®, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If—the Senator has got his facts wrong. I have not suggested there‘s a connection between Iraq and the 9/11.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: But here is the vice president on “MEET THE PRESS” one year ago, September 14, 2003. He was asked to define success in Iraq.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CHENEY: We will struck a major blow, right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists, who have had us under assault now for many years but most especially on 9/11.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: So Vice President Cheney from tonight‘s debate and from “MEET THE PRESS” just over a year ago.
Link which displayed the above transcript as of October 9, 2004:
[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6193075/]
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Fox News Follow-Up Report about this Matthews/Williams episode:
Here's the transcript of a follow-up report on the Matthews/Williams episode by Brit Hume at Fox News on October 8, 2004:
Friday, October 08, 2004
By Brit Hume
NBC News anchor and former Jimmy Carter (search) speech writer Chris Matthews (search) says he has "establish[ed] the fact in no uncertain terms that the Vice President asserted... Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11." Matthews cites Dick Cheney (search) from "Meet the Press" last September, when he said:
"If we're successful in Iraq ... we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."
Right after that, however, Cheney was asked if he meant that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. Cheney replied, "I was careful not to say that. ... The relevance for 9/11 is that what 9/11 marked was the beginning of a struggle in which the terrorists come at us and strike us here on our home territory. And it's a global operation."
Matthews never mentioned the followup question or the answer.
Link which displayed the above transcript as of October 9, 2004:
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134851,00.html]
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